Is Donald Trump making America more dangerous? Dean Obeidallah and Thom Hartmann discuss how Trump's grandstanding could make America a target. MORE FROM THOM 📃 Thom's Hartmann's 'Daily Take' Newsletter: https://HartmannReport.com 🎦 Watch a full program re-run anytime: https://www.patreon.com/thomhartmann 🎧 Audio Podcast: https://thom.tv FOLLOW THOM 📕 AMAZON: https://amzn.to/2hS4UwY 📝 DAILY TAKE: https://hartmannreport.com 👥 FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/ThomHartmannProgram/ 📸 INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/Thom_Hartmann 🎦 PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thomhartmann 🐦 X: https://www.twitter.com/thom_hartmann Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/hartmannreport.com 🌐 WEBSITE: https://www.thomhartmann.com 📺 YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=thomhartmann 👕 Merchandise: https://teespring.com/stores/thom-hartmann-program-2 🍺 Thom Merchandise: https://teespring.com/thom-hartmann-mug?pid=522&cid=101870 ABOUT THE PROGRAM The Thom Hartmann Program is the leading progressive political talk radio show for political news and comments about Government politics, be it Liberal or Conservative, plus special guests and callers. #MoreFromThom ✔ Amazon links are affiliate links TRANSCRIPT Dean: We are facing the abyss of fascism right in front of us. It's right here. I never expected it would be here. Why is Trump making the U.S. less safe? Thom: Right. Well, that is the more concerning issue because I think we need to amplify the good stories out there. Corporate media has made Trump omnipotent. But in terms of making America less safe—that’s not just my opinion. I had Congressman Dan Goldman on last week. He’s on the House Homeland Security Committee and a former federal prosecutor. Frankie, who served in the FBI for over 20 years, was also on. They both noted that Trump’s purge of FBI agents, his offer to buy out anyone in the CIA or NSA who wants to leave, and the fact that they’re not replacing these officials with people committed to public service are making the country less safe. We also learned from The Washington Post over the weekend that new hires must answer "yes" to two questions: Was the 2020 election stolen? and Was January 6 an inside job? If you answer "no," you don’t get hired. I’m not kidding—that was in The Washington Post on Sunday. So Trump is making us less safe. We know he's making us less safe. Dean: Let me add one more thing to this. Another way he’s making us unsafe—you’ll recall when Bin Laden wrote his Letter to America in 1998, he said he would strike us because George H.W. Bush had convinced Saudi Arabia to put an air force base, the Prince Sultan Air Force Base, in Saudi Arabia to stage flights—F-16s, F-35s, whatever—into Iraq. We never pulled our troops out, and Bin Laden was furious that there were men watching porn and women driving cars with their elbows showing inside Saudi Arabia. He said, "If you don’t remove these people, I’m going to hit you." Three weeks after 9/11, George W. Bush pulled all American troops out of the Prince Sultan Air Force Base and shut it down. The reason we got hit on 9/11 was because we were occupying Arab soil. And now, just this morning, Trump came out and said—I forget the exact words—something about buying and owning Gaza. Thom: What? Dean: Right. Think that might piss off a few people? I do. I don’t know if it will happen, but just today, Israel and Netanyahu complied with another ceasefire term and withdrew troops from the northern part of Gaza. But even the rhetoric alone is enough to incite violence. Thom: Wanting to attack and actually engaging in a terrorist attack are two different things. To me, there are numerous threats—it’s not just from Islamic radicals. The biggest threat in America is right-wing white supremacists. That’s a threat we have to deal with. It doesn’t matter where the threat comes from. The question is: What happens when there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil? Because there will be one. Trump, I think, is making us less safe. I’m not going to say he’s rooting for a terrorist attack because I don’t have evidence of that. I think it’s fair to say that, but I won’t make that claim. What I will say is: What’s he going to do when it happens? History tells us what he’ll do. Timothy Snyder’s book on tyranny tells us what he’ll do. And you know the picture on my article? It’s the Reichstag fire from 1933 Germany. Hitler used that to get the Enabling Act passed, which made him a dictator. The day after the fire burned down the German Parliament, Hitler said authorities could arrest anyone and hold them indefinitely. It didn’t matter who started the Reichstag fire—the debate is whether Hitler did it himself. The point is: When that happens, how will Trump respond?
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